Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

Songstress's picture

.... but it may not be what you think.

Most of you saw this coming and probably dreaded the day. Through the good offices of Project Wonderful, LostCoastGaming.com has officially entered the world of online advertising.

Is it because I think I'm going to somehow make a buttload of money off the traffic on this site? Hear that snickering laughter?

That answer would be a solid "No." But then, why?

That answer is actually a bit more interesting.

After considering all my options (Paypal donation buttons, nagware screens for donations, selling "premium" memberships, and/or Google Adsense *shudder*), I decided to go with Project Wonderful. Here's why:

Project Wonderful allows advertisers to target their message to their chosen audiences, control how much they spend, and for how long, on any given ad. All ads are run by "auction" and the highest bidder at any given time runs their ad until either the run expires, they run out of money, or they are outbid by a competitor.

Popular sites with hundreds of thousands of Page Views per Day (PVD) get top dollar for space on their sites. Sites like this one, which currently averages 2500 page views a day, have to settle for more modest amounts. I can set a minimum amount for ads in our space, and I have, but in general this is all demand driven -- if we can generate the numbers, the site can generate the revenue and Project Wonderful is only taking 25% of the proceeds as their cut.

They give me as the publisher quite a bit of control over the ads that will appear here -- I've insisted all ads be "Safe for Work" and for now, no animations -- and even the right to refuse ads if I/we don't like them for whatever reason, or none at all. Most of the ads I've seen for our keywords (or tags, if you like) thus far have been for some pretty cool sites -- web comics, MMORPGs, some adult online serial fiction, stuff like that. The revenues generated by these ads will collect in an account kept by Project Wonderful and if I wanted, I could start withdrawing from it once it reaches $10 USD.

(Those of you who've ever had dealings with Google Adsense are probably agog right now -- and I can't blame you. I was too, when I first read through the terms on PW's site.)

And so we finally get to the "why" of all this: Because it's going to fund LCG's outreach.

Once we get a bit saved up at PW I'll start bidding for ad spaces on other sites to get LCG's name and logo and other "branding" type stuff out there. We've got a pretty good thing going here but out biggest problem right now is that we're largely unknown and the "signal to noise" ratio out there on the web is pretty fierce.

I've asked most of you to spread the word and ask your friends and fellow gamers to join us, and some of you have (thank you!); I've required new GMs to recruit a percentage of their players from offsite (mostly) and yet we're still too dangerously close to "game saturation." We need a steady influx of new gamers -- it doesn't have to be a huge flood (actually, that would be bad) but a constant stream of new members cascading down that block to the right would be pretty sweet, I think.

Especially if they can approach the superb quality of the gamers already here.

So there you have it. No master plan rake in millions (or even hundreds) based on the high-quality content here -- just a way, maybe, to help us get the word out about who we are, and what we've got.

As always, your constructive feedback is treasured. :)

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creativedv8tion's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

Well, personally, I think it's a great idea. PW is very cool and a spiffiriffic choice in online ads. Really, it doesn't bother me to have ads on a site I go to - if it gets too bothersome, I have adblock.

I just hope LCG doesn't get too big; I rather like the small-site atmosphere. I realise the need to get more players in, not advocating against that at all, just voicing my hopes that it doesn't get out of hand. The more people we get in, the more bad players we're going to have to deal with, as well.

But, in re: PW, you have my nod of approval. I figured it was just a matter of time you went with some sort of ads, and am glad you went the route you did.

"I'm not responsible for Terry. He's a force unlike anything we've ever seen. :)"

                          -D Pirko, December 14, 2004

Songstress's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

Thanks Terry. I totally agree with your thoughts about keeping the "small-site atmosphere." I had originally hoped word-of-mouth would do the trick for "sustainable growth" for the site, but so far anyway it doesn't seem to be. So my thought is that we'll start out small, on less-trafficked sites, and go for the bigger and bigger ones until we've got a level of influx we're all comfortable with.

I'm concerned about the "bad player" (aka "troll") syndrome too --- you know we're going to get them, statistically speaking we can't avoid it. I think we have a solid enough community now to deal with them in the only way they can reasonably be dealt with -- i.e., put up the "Don't Feed The Troll" signs and stand solid against being baited. ;)

Bad writers though... that's a horse of another color....

=-~*Songstress*~-=

"People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Thrakazog's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

Lt. Steven Hauk: Who do we have slated for live entertainment in November?
Dan 'The Man' Levitan: Well, we originally wanted Bob Hope, but it turns out he won't come.
Lt. Steven Hauk: Why not?
Edward Garlick: He doesn't play police actions, just wars. Bob likes a big room, sir.

So do I, incidentally. It's part of my insecure need for approval, or something. Maybe I'm quoting my analyst wrong, but anyways...if this will fund outreach that brings more readers of my material then my ego votes "hell yes".

The ads never really bothered me and I went along my business without concern. I assume I'll continue to do the same. Thanks for taking care of business, Song.

Chairman's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

I agree with Thrak about liking a bigger house. *grin*

I just like the meeting and playing with new people, cuz every once in a while you find a connection that makes you richer for it as a person. Some of you gaming writers are just cool!

Game recruitment will change, I'm guessing. Instead of someone saying I'm starting up this game about blah, who wants to play, and everyone wanting to play getting a spot. It'll turn into more of a selection process like some of the Hero Games on the site have endured.

I don't mind novice writers as long as their imagination is in the right spot and their grammar doesn't make my eyes bleed. Plus if games go through a selection process, the GMs that don't have the patience for less than excellent writers can just not pick them. And how can a writer improve if they don't get a place work on it.

As far as trolls, I really don't think they'd last long before they got bored with us. I've been here for almost a year now, and don't think I've seen anyone pick a successful fight on the board yet.

As the site grows though, I hope we'll get some lurkers for the stories, because like John said, it's cool to have people read and enjoy your stuff. Especially if they comment and such in the forum.

Here are the down sides for me. I don't like the banner placement, I wish it was higher. *shrug* But nothing I can't live with. The other thing is that as the site grows, and more games are started, the right hand tool bar with updates will become less functional, because all of us greedy GMs and players will be updating our games all of the time. MyLCG might have a way to customize which games you get updates on, I hope so. It would be really sweet if we could select which games we see updates for.

Songstress's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

I can move the banner above the mission statement as long as it doesn't interfere with search engine findings. The reason I moved it below the mission statement was to be sure the search engines picked up that mission statement (they grab the first few lines of site content to cache, usually).

But for all I know, they could ignore the PW banner because it's actually off-site. So we'll give it a try. :)

=-~*Songstress*~-=

"People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Chairman's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

I really like this placement better. The dark info banner, followed by the white banner, then back to the light blue background...made my mind stick.

The white at the top with the blues below, flow better for me. ...but, that's just my opinion.

Songstress's picture

Re: Yeah, it's a Bottom Line...

You are quite welcome. I actually enjoy this, to my mild astonishment.

And if your ego loves phase one, it's gonna fall over in an ecstatic faint when I implement phase two.... ;)

=-~*Songstress*~-=

"People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

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